Crater at the crash site
Subsidence crater at Nevada test site
http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Usa/Tests/Nts.html
Video of Shanksville crash site
VIDEO: Shanksville crash site Dailymotion
Smoke plume at the crash site
Photo of the smoke plume
http://www.cnhins.com/disasters/cnhisnsdisasters_story_251131209.html
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0607/S00218.htm
Photo authentic
Mrs. McClatchey’s is entirely authentic, as verified by the FBI. According to special agent Jeff Killeen of Bureau’s Pittsburgh office, it is “a very legitimate photograph… that was taken moments after Flight 93 crashed to the ground.” Moonbattery
Crash Witnesses Accounts
“I heard like a boom and the engine sounded funny,” she told the Daily News. “I heard two more booms – and then I did not hear anything.”
What does Temyer think she heard? “I think the plane was shot down,”
“It came in low over the trees and started wobbling,” said Tim Thornsberg, a resident of Somerset County, who was working near an old strip mine when he saw the plane.
“Then it just rolled over and was flying upside down for a few seconds … and then it kind of stalled and did a nose dive over the trees. It was just unreal to see something like that.”
Eric Peterson, 28, was working in his shop in the Somerset County village of Lambertsville yesterday morning when he heard a plane, looked up and saw one fly over unusually low.
The plane continued on beyond a nearby hill, then dropped out of sight behind a tree line. As it did so, Peterson said it seemed to be turning end-over-end.
Then Peterson said he saw a fireball, heard an explosion and saw a mushroom cloud of smoke rise into the sky.
“I saw the plane flying upside down overhead and crash into the nearby trees. My buddy, Doug, and I grabbed our fire extinguishers and ran to the scene,” said Blair.
Eric Peterson of Lambertsville looked up when he heard the plane. “It was low enough, I thought you could probably count the rivets,” Peterson said. “You could see more of the roof of the plane than you could the belly. It was on its side.”
“There was a great explosion and you could see the flames. It was a massive, massive explosion. Flames and then smoke and then a massive, massive mushroom cloud.”
“Normally I wouldn’t look up, but I just heard on the news that all the planes were grounded and thought this was probably the last one I would see for a while, so I looked up,” she said. “I didn’t see the plane but I heard the plane’s engine. Then I heard a loud thump that echoed off the hills and then I heard the plane’s engine. I heard two more loud thumps and didn’t hear the plane’s engine anymore after that.”
“We didn’t hear that plane coming until it was right on top of us,” she said. “Then there was a roar.” She said the plane appeared to be gliding into the ground. “All at once it just stopped. There was no engine noise, nothing. Someone hollered, Oh my God!’ and then there was a real loud thud.”
Shortly after 10 a.m., workers on farms and scrap yards in Somerset County looked up to see an airliner flying low and erratic at an estimated 450 mph.
Bob Blair of Stoystown was driving a coal truck on state Route 30 when he saw the jet plummet “straight down.” Barn windowpanes for half a mile around shattered as the jet dived into a reclaimed strip mine and exploded at 10:10 a. m.
A witness told WTAE-TV’s Paul Van Osdol that she saw the plane overhead. It made a high-pitched, screeching sound. The plane then made a sharp, 90-degree downward turn and crashed.
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Bob Blair was completing a routine drive to Shade Creek just after 10 a.m. Tuesday, when he saw a huge silver plane fly past him just above the treetops and crash into the woods along Lambertsville Road.
Blair, of Stoystown, a driver with Jim Barron Trucking of Somerset, was traveling in a coal truck along with Doug Miller of Somerset, when they saw the plane spiraling to the ground and then explode on the outskirts of Lambertsville.
“I saw the plane flying upside down overhead and crash into the nearby trees. My buddy, Doug, and I grabbed our fire extinguishers and ran to the scene,” said Blair.
Another witness, Michael Merringer, said he was out on a mountain bike ride with his wife, Amy, about two miles from the crash site.
“(I) heard the engine gun two different times,” he said. “(I) heard a loud bang and the windows of the houses all around rattled.”
Larry Williams, a former state police trooper who is now a private investigator, was golfing on the 17th green at Oakbrook Golf Course about eight miles away when he heard the engines “roar real loud and shut off.”
“We got the call about 9:58 this morning from a male passenger stating that he was locked in the bathroom of United Flight 93 traveling from Newark to San Francisco, and they were being hijacked,” said Glenn Cramer, a 911 supervisor.
“We confirmed that with him several times and we asked him to repeat what he said. He was very distraught. He said he believed the plane was going down. He did hear some sort of an explosion and saw white smoke coming from the plane, but he didn’t know where.
“And then we lost contact with him.”
Meanwhile, investigators also are combing a second crime scene in nearby Indian Lake (2.5 miles from main crash site), where residents reported hearing the doomed jetliner flying over at a low altitude before “falling apart on their homes.”
“People were calling in and reporting pieces of plane falling,” a state trooper said. Jim Stop reported he had seen the hijacked Boeing 757 fly over him as he was fishing. He said he could see parts falling from the plane.
I lost this link.. but since the witness name is there I’ve left it up.
Some witnesses reported that the plane was flying upside down for a time before the crash; others said they heard up to three loud booms before the jetliner went down.
“There was no way anything was left,” Pluta added. “There was just charred pieces of metal and a big hole. The plane didn’t slide into the crash. It went straight into the ground. Wings out. Nose down.”
Bits of metal were thrown against a tree line like shrapnel, said state police spokesman Trooper Thomas Spallone of Troop A in Greensburg.
“Once it hit, everything just disintegrated,” he said. “There are just shreds of metal. The longest piece I saw was 2 feet long.”
“End of Serenity”
The End of Serenity
Val McClatchey heard the 757 roar over Indian Lake, three miles east of where it would crash. She had been watching the “Today” show, with footage from New York, and now the Pentagon.
She looked out the window, above the red barns. She caught a glimpse of it, like light off a watch face. Then nothing, and then a boom that nearly knocked her off the couch.
The lights went out. The phones, too.
She grabbed her camera. She stepped onto the front porch and shot one frame of the smoke cloud, a charcoal puff in a pure blue sky.
That image — “End of Serenity,” she called it — caught the essence of Somerset County that day. The barns, the blue sky, the open slope of pasture — it’s a postcard, except for that fat, black cloud, swelling like a smoke signal, warning that something horrible has happened.
“I thought it was an accident,” McClatchey says, a Time and a Newsweek and a Reader’s Digest in the binder on the coffee table, the pages with her photo marked with Post-Its. “I thought it was a small plane. I figured they were just trying to get out of the air.”
She didn’t walk up that road, toward the hole in the tree line. She could hear the sirens; she knew it was bad. She didn’t need to see.
She went into the kitchen and put on barbecue for the rescue crews.
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_90823.html
Distance between Val’s house and crater
http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2001/09/vals-house-is-16-miles-from-crater.html
Shanksville crash site
VIDEO: Shanksville crash site – aerial view Dailymotion
Lack of sizable debris
Killtown’s Hunt the Boeing
An official commenting about the crash scene:
“This is the most eerie thing. I have not, to this day, seen a single drop of blood. Not a drop.”
“I stopped being coroner after about 20 minutes, because there were no bodies there. There was just nothing visible. It was the strangest feeling.”
“[The crater looked] like someone took a scrap truck, dug a 10-foot ditch and dumped all this trash into it.”
Somerset county coroner, Wallace Miller, about the remains of any of passengers from the plane and about what the crater looked like.
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_90823.html
When asked by a reporter: “Any large pieces of debris at all?… Smoke? Fire?”
“Na, there was nothing, nothing that you could distinguish that a plane had crashed there… No smoke. No fire.”
Comments made by Chris Konicki, a photographer being interviewed by a local FOX News affiliate reporter.
Shanksville crash site
VIDEO: Shanksville crash site Dailymotion
Another witness near the scene:
“There’s a very strong odor of scorched earth. It doesn’t smell like jet fuel, it smells like … How do you describe it? Burned earth. It smells like burned earth.”
Comments made by WTAE reporter, Jim Parsons, who arrived shortly after the crash.
http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/956356/detail.html
Plane tail survives crashes
FROM KILLTOWN
Tail sections usually survive plane crashes since they are usually the last to hit the object the plane crashes into and because it’s at the rear of the plane.
http://killtown.blogspot.com/2006/06/flight-77s-missing-tail-section.html
Pentagon plane tail
AP reporter Dave Winslow also saw the crash. He said, “I saw the tail of a large airliner … It ploughed right into the Pentagon.” – Guardian (09/12/01)
Statement from Penny Elgas: “The plane seemed to be floating as if it were a paper glider and I watched in horror as it gently rocked and slowly glided straight into the Pentagon. At the point where the fuselage hit the wall, it seemed to simply melt into the building… At that point, the wings disappeared into the Pentagon. And then I saw an explosion and watched the tail of the plane slip into the building.” – Smithsonian Institute
“The plane exploded after it hit, the tail came off and it began burning immediately. Within five minutes, police and emergency vehicles began arriving,” said Vin Narayanan, a reporter at USA TODAY.com, who was driving near the Pentagon when the plane hit.” –
http://killtown.blogspot.com/2006/06/flight-77s-missing-tail-section.html
Ordnance plumes
http://www.utopiax.org/ua93.html
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bryonhorton/
http://www.russellbeattie.com/notebook/1003850.html
http://marisacat.wordpress.com/2007/01/25/green-zone-under-assualt/
Smoke plumes from airplane crashes
http://www.911mysteriesguide.com/911_Mysteries_Viewers_Guide.pdf
http://nephilim.blogspot.com/2005_10_01_archive.html
VIDEO: B-52 plane crash Dailymotion
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125×68679
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125×68679
Analysis of smoke plumes
http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/07/plume-analysis.html
But is it really true that a plane crash always forms a smoke cloud whose shape is distinctly different from the one shown in Valerie McClatchey’s photograph? No, it isn’t. On August 13, 2006, an Algerian C-130 Hercules four-engine turboprop crashed near Piacenza, Italy, as reported by local news and government sources […] A cloud of smoke rose from the crash site and a local resident, Gianluca Pietta, took a picture of it (shown here with his permission).
http://www.attivissimo.net/11settembre/shanks-nube/endofserenity-e.htm
http://www.attivissimo.net/11settembre/shanks-nube/endofserenity-e.htm
Crater at Shanksville
http://killtown.911review.org/flight93.html
http://americanhistory.si.edu/september11/collection/record.asp?ID=94
http://americanhistory.si.edu/september11/collection/record.asp?ID=94
http://americanhistory.si.edu/september11/collection/record.asp?ID=94
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/911/911-docphotos.html
http://www.rcfp.org/moussaoui/
http://www.rcfp.org/moussaoui/
Scattered debris
http://www.rcfp.org/moussaoui/
http://www.rcfp.org/moussaoui/
Voice recorder and flight recorder black boxes recovered
http://www.rcfp.org/moussaoui/
Dimensions of the Shanksville crater
Some plane pieces recovered
http://www.rcfp.org/moussaoui/
The Picture
http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2007_02_01_archive.html
FBI confiscated the incriminating picture
http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/08/mcclatchey-interview-from-windsor-park.html
Witness says it sounded like an atom bomb
Nena Lensbouer, who had prepared lunch for the workers at the scrap yard overlooking the crash site, was the first person to go up to the smoking crater.
Lensbouer told AFP that the hole was five to six feet deep and smaller than the 24-foot trailer in her front yard. She described hearing “an explosion, like an atomic bomb”—not a crash.
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/9-11_mysteries.html
Paucity of large-sized plane debris
Lensbouer told AFP that she did not see any evidence of a plane then or at any time during the excavation at the site, an effort that reportedly recovered 95 percent of the plane and 10 percent of the human remains.
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/9-11_mysteries.html
Plane debris scattered far and wide – up to 8 miles away
One of the massive engines, Leverknight said, however, bounced off the ground and was found in the woods.
Jim Svonavec, whose company worked at the site and provided excavation equipment, told AFP that the recovery of the engine “at least 1,800 feet into the woods,” was done solely by FBI agents using his equipment.
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/9-11_mysteries.html
Empty smoking hole
VIDEO: Shanksville crash site – Flight 93 Dailymotion
Look at the scale: people on the right are about 6 feet tall. Compare their height to the size of the hole.
VIDEO: Shanksville plane crash site 3a Dailymotion
Flight 93 Eyewitness Accounts
Crash Witnesses Accounts:
“I heard like a boom and the engine sounded funny,” she told the Daily News. “I heard two more booms – and then I did not hear anything.”
What does Temyer think she heard? “I think the plane was shot down,”
http://dailynews.philly.com/content/daily_news/2001/11/18/local/SHOT15C.htm
“It came in low over the trees and started wobbling,” said Tim Thornsberg, a resident of Somerset County, who was working near an old strip mine when he saw the plane.
“Then it just rolled over and was flying upside down for a few seconds … and then it kind of stalled and did a nose dive over the trees. It was just unreal to see something like that.”
http://www.pittsburgh.com/partners/wpxi/news/flightheroes.html
Eric Peterson, 28, was working in his shop in the Somerset County village of Lambertsville yesterday morning when he heard a plane, looked up and saw one fly over unusually low.
The plane continued on beyond a nearby hill, then dropped out of sight behind a tree line. As it did so, Peterson said it seemed to be turning end-over-end.
Then Peterson said he saw a fireball, heard an explosion and saw a mushroom cloud of smoke rise into the sky.
http://www.post-gazette.com/headlines/20010912crashnat2p2.asp
“I saw the plane flying upside down overhead and crash into the nearby trees. My buddy, Doug, and I grabbed our fire extinguishers and ran to the scene,” said Blair.
http://www.dailyamerican.com/disaster.html#3
Eric Peterson of Lambertsville looked up when he heard the plane. “It was low enough, I thought you could probably count the rivets,” Peterson said. “You could see more of the roof of the plane than you could the belly. It was on its side.”
“There was a great explosion and you could see the flames. It was a massive, massive explosion. Flames and then smoke and then a massive, massive mushroom cloud.”
“Normally I wouldn’t look up, but I just heard on the news that all the planes were grounded and thought this was probably the last one I would see for a while, so I looked up,” she said. “I didn’t see the plane but I heard the plane’s engine. Then I heard a loud thump that echoed off the hills and then I heard the plane’s engine. I heard two more loud thumps and didn’t hear the plane’s engine anymore after that.”
http://www.dailyamerican.com/disaster.html#3
She said the plane appeared to be gliding into the ground. “We didn’t hear that plane coming until it was right on top of us,” she said. “Then there was a roar.””All at once it just stopped. There was no engine noise, nothing. Someone hollered, Oh my God!’ and then there was a real loud thud.”
Shortly after 10 a.m., workers on farms and scrap yards in Somerset County looked up to see an airliner flying low and erratic at an estimated 450 mph.
http://www.dailyamerican.com/disaster.html#3
Bob Blair of Stoystown was driving a coal truck on state Route 30 when he saw the jet plummet “straight down.” Barn windowpanes for half a mile around shattered as the jet dived into a reclaimed strip mine and exploded at 10:10 a. m.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2001/09/17/MN40630.DTL
A witness told WTAE-TV’s Paul Van Osdol that she saw the plane overhead. It made a high-pitched, screeching sound. The plane then made a sharp, 90-degree downward turn and crashed.
http://newsandviews.tripod.com/news/091101tv2.html
Bob Blair was completing a routine drive to Shade Creek just after 10 a.m. Tuesday, when he saw a huge silver plane fly past him just above the treetops and crash into the woods along Lambertsville Road.
Blair, of Stoystown, a driver with Jim Barron Trucking of Somerset, was traveling in a coal truck along with Doug Miller of Somerset, when they saw the plane spiraling to the ground and then explode on the outskirts of Lambertsville.
“I saw the plane flying upside down overhead and crash into the nearby trees. My buddy, Doug, and I grabbed our fire extinguishers and ran to the scene,” said Blair.
http://www.dailyamerican.com/disaster.html
Another witness, Michael Merringer, said he was out on a mountain bike ride with his wife, Amy, about two miles from the crash site.
“(I) heard the engine gun two different times,” he said. “(I) heard a loud bang and the windows of the houses all around rattled.”
http://www.pjstar.com/news/worldtrade/g34835a.html
Larry Williams, a former state police trooper who is now a private investigator, was golfing on the 17th green at Oakbrook Golf Course about eight miles away when he heard the engines “roar real loud and shut off.”
http://www.dailyamerican.com/disaster.html#3
Meanwhile, investigators also are combing a second crime scene in nearby Indian Lake (2.5 miles from main crash site), where residents reported hearing the doomed jetliner flying over at a low altitude before “falling apart on their homes.”
“People were calling in and reporting pieces of plane falling,” a state trooper said. Jim Stop reported he had seen the hijacked Boeing 757 fly over him as he was fishing. He said he could see parts falling from the plane.
I lost this link.. but since the witness name is there I’ve left it up.
Some witnesses reported that the plane was flying upside down for a time before the crash; others said they heard up to three loud booms before the jetliner went down.
http://www.post-gazette.com/headlines/20010912crashnat2p2.asp
“There was no way anything was left,” Pluta added. “There was just charred pieces of metal and a big hole. The plane didn’t slide into the crash. It went straight into the ground. Wings out. Nose down.”
Bits of metal were thrown against a tree line like shrapnel, said state police spokesman Trooper Thomas Spallone of Troop A in Greensburg.
“Once it hit, everything just disintegrated,” he said. “There are just shreds of metal. The longest piece I saw was 2 feet long.”
Booms of explosion
“I heard like a boom and the engine sounded funny,” she told the Daily News. “I heard two more booms – and then I did not hear anything.”
http://dailynews.philly.com/content/daily_news/2001/11/18/local/SHOT15C.htm
“There was a great explosion and you could see the flames. It was a massive, massive explosion. Flames and then smoke and then a massive, massive mushroom cloud.”
I didn’t see the plane but I heard the plane’s engine. Then I heard a loud thump that echoed off the hills and then I heard the plane’s engine. I heard two more loud thumps and didn’t hear the plane’s engine anymore after that.”
http://www.dailyamerican.com/disaster.html#3
Comment: There seems to be a pattern of three thumps or booms.
She said the plane appeared to be gliding into the ground. “We didn’t hear that plane coming until it was right on top of us,” she said. “Then there was a roar.””All at once it just stopped. There was no engine noise, nothing. Someone hollered, Oh my God!’ and then there was a real loud thud.”
Blair, of Stoystown, a driver with Jim Barron Trucking of Somerset, was traveling in a coal truck along with Doug Miller of Somerset, when they saw the plane spiraling to the ground and then explode on the outskirts of Lambertsville.
http://www.dailyamerican.com/disaster.html
Another witness, Michael Merringer, said he was out on a mountain bike ride with his wife, Amy, about two miles from the crash site.
“(I) heard the engine gun two different times,” he said. “(I) heard a loud bang and the windows of the houses all around rattled.”
http://www.pjstar.com/news/worldtrade/g34835a.html
Larry Williams, a former state police trooper who is now a private investigator, was golfing on the 17th green at Oakbrook Golf Course about eight miles away when he heard the engines “roar real loud and shut off.”
http://www.dailyamerican.com/disaster.html#3
Some witnesses reported that the plane was flying upside down for a time before the crash; others said they heard up to three loud booms before the jetliner went down.
http://www.post-gazette.com/headlines/20010912crashnat2p2.asp
[R]etired coal miner Charles Rhoades, 80, of Shanksville [..] was watching TV when he heard the large boom as the plane went down less than a quarter-mile from his home.
http://www.post-gazette.com/headlines/20010912crashnat2p2.asp
The impact “sounded like dynamite,” said Lucy Menear, 83, who lives less than a half-mile from the crash site. “It seems as though everything was falling apart.”
http://www.post-gazette.com/headlines/20010912crashnat2p2.asp
Terry Butler saw the plane bank right at the top of its climb, then lost sight of it behind some trees. Within three or four seconds, there was the impact, marked, he remembered, by four explosions.
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/09/09/1031115990570.html
Laura Temyer, who lives several miles north of the crash site in Hooversville, was hanging some clothes outside that morning when she heard an airplane pass overhead. That struck her as unusual since she’d just heard on TV that all flights were grounded.
“I heard like a boom and the engine sounded funny,” she told the Daily News. “I heard two more booms – and then I did not hear anything.” …
[A]n eyewitness, Linda Shepley, said she had an unobstructed view of Flight 93’s final two minutes and has reached the opposite conclusion. She recalls seeing the plane wobbling right and left, at a low altitude of roughly 2,500 feet, when suddenly the right wing abruptly dipped straight down, and the Boeing 757 plunged into the earth.
“It’s not true,” said Shepley of the persistent rumors. “If it had been shot down, there would have been pieces flying, but it was intact – there was nothing wrong with it.”
Comment: The plane was detonated at a low height and therefore the explosion was not observed visually. But even though the explosion happened at a low altitude it was powerful enough to scatter debris as far away as eight miles.
Some of the debris might have fallen from the plane before it exploded, from the cargo hold of the plane if the cargo hold had been left open during the hijackers’ escape (via parachute).
The reason for the low altitude of the detonation of the plane is that the perpetrators would not have wanted anyone to witness the plane exploding. That would have raised the question of a bomb on the plane and people would ask how a bomb got onto the plane. Investigating this angle would lead to the Israelis who had control of the security of the four aiports from which the 9/11 planes had departed from.
The low altitude of the explosion also doesn’t support the theory the plane was shot down as it would have been very difficult for a military plane to shoot it down when it was so low.
In addition there were no reports of a missile being observed. If people were close enough to see the plane before it crashed, they would have seen the missile streaking toward the plane and they would have heard or seen a military plane within the vicinity at this low altitude where this activity hypothetically occurred.
Hiding the hidden hand of the Israeli perpetrators was the main motive and hence this is the reason why such a remote area as Somerset county was chosen for the explosion of the plane and its crash – to minimize the number of potential observers of the event. This is the reason why they didn’t crash in a populated area. Muslim hijackers wouldn’t have cared about the number of observers of a crash and since their supposed purpose was to kill as many Americans as possible would have crashed their plane in as populated center as possible.
Whether it was hero passengers or an F-16 fighter pilot who wanted the hijacked jetliner to come down away from a populated area, they did an amazing job in picking Shanksville.
The nearest sizable town, Somerset, is 10 miles away on winding back-country roads – where a visitor encountered as many dead raccoons as vehicles. Nestled along a creekbed in the rolling Allegheny foothills, Shanksville is a small cluster of red-brick homes and flag-draped front porches.
The only commercial enterprise, a convenience store called Ida’s, also rents videos and has the only ATM for miles around.
Eric Peterson, 28, an off-duty corrections officer, was an eyewitness to the crash.
“It was burning when it hit the ground,” Peterson said. “When it went down, it was in one piece. It was flying low, real low.
“We couldn’t see past the tree line, but we knew it crashed. I didn’t think it was going to clear these places. It looked like it tumbled.”
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_12942.html
Comment: The plane must have exploded when it was close to the ground. The fact that material was strewn wide is a result of the explosive effect. Also the plane’s cargo hold could have been open scattering mail and other debris wide as it tumbled and fell.
The Day America Was Punked 